in the shell Forum Index in the shell
Discussions about the many incarnations of Ghost in the Shell, philosophy and more!
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Information warfare

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    in the shell Forum Index -> The Technology
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Freitag



Joined: 01 Sep 2008
Posts: 569
Location: Behind you

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:27 pm    Post subject: Information warfare Reply with quote

The first task in engineering when you want to control a system is to figure out how to measure it.

In Section 9, Motoko frequently has the group perform information management tasks to sway or control public information and opinion on a subject or event.

The second page is far more relevant to the conversation at hand than is the first, but the first is interesting too.

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/03/deb-roy-at-ted/

anyway, here is a guy that has developed software that allows for the type of analysis that is frequently done in Section 9.
_________________
People tend to look at you a little strangely when they know you stuff voodoo dolls full of Ex-Lax.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cong06



Joined: 04 Apr 2009
Posts: 37

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:23 am    Post subject: Re: Information warfare Reply with quote

Freitag wrote:
The first task in engineering when you want to control a system is to figure out how to measure it.

In Section 9, Motoko frequently has the group perform information management tasks to sway or control public information and opinion on a subject or event.

The second page is far more relevant to the conversation at hand than is the first, but the first is interesting too.

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/03/deb-roy-at-ted/

anyway, here is a guy that has developed software that allows for the type of analysis that is frequently done in Section 9.


I'm rather intrigued by this. On one hand I can easily understand how some people are worried about the lack of privacy that things like this (not the cameras, but the personalized advertisements).
On the other hand it's incredibly interesting to see and learn what effects people.

Not to change the subject, but what would people rather? Extra effective advertisements that are designed to manipulate, or our current state of (lack of) knowledge relating to the human psyche?

Edit: It occurs to me to point out that we probably don't have a choice in the matter, but it's a worthwhile thought experiment.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Freitag



Joined: 01 Sep 2008
Posts: 569
Location: Behind you

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd prefer to pay more for my products and keep the advertisers out of my info.

In the old days, having cable TV meant you had no ads because you paid for the content. Other the air TV had ads.

Now there are even freaking ads in a movie theater.

And why while watching anime do they show either dating ads for excersize equipment? I guess the advertisers have looked up the word "otaku"
_________________
People tend to look at you a little strangely when they know you stuff voodoo dolls full of Ex-Lax.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cong06



Joined: 04 Apr 2009
Posts: 37

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that Ads are around us too much.

Do you try and stay away from Google because of how it collects info for it's advertisements? or do you just adblock them away?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Freitag



Joined: 01 Sep 2008
Posts: 569
Location: Behind you

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cong06 wrote:
I agree that Ads are around us too much.

Do you try and stay away from Google because of how it collects info for it's advertisements? or do you just adblock them away?


An example of my insanity. I am registered with them and permit them to track my entire search history.

Although I do play with their results a bit. For an entire year the word "Misato" was my top search every day, week, and month.

If you search using google while logged in, check this: https://www.google.com/history/trends?hl=en

I also use google bookmarks, so they know my top clicks.

This is my unmodified "all time" search history top ten. Looks like I need to hit up Misato some more...

Quote:
Top queries
1.
translate
2.
misato
3.
legacy cinemark
4.
winscp
5.
putty
6.
chase oaks church
7.
34.072426, -118.439242
8.
winmerge
9.
tortoise cvs
10.
anime

Top sites
1.
news.yahoo.com
2.
www.facebook.com
3.
www.houseofghant.com
4.
apps.facebook.com
5.
en.wikipedia.org
6.
www.ilmioposto.com
7.
www.google.com
8.
www.engadget.com
9.
www.neomythos.com
10.
mail.google.com

Top clicks
1.
Gmail: Email from Google
2.
Freefall Last Three Comics
3.
Engadget
4.
Those Guys :: Index
5.
xkcd: FPS Mod
6.
The Comic - Girl Genius Online Comics!
7.
White Noise : Home
8.
Giant In the Playground Games
9.
http://nodwick.humor.gamespy.com/ffn/
10.
Sinfest: The Webcomic To End a

_________________
People tend to look at you a little strangely when they know you stuff voodoo dolls full of Ex-Lax.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Freitag



Joined: 01 Sep 2008
Posts: 569
Location: Behind you

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Pete's sake turn on strict safe search if you search for "Misato"
_________________
People tend to look at you a little strangely when they know you stuff voodoo dolls full of Ex-Lax.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John_234



Joined: 30 May 2011
Posts: 41

PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's only natural, to be honest. Advertising is necessary for good concepts to get out there, and it's more successful if it's relevant to what you're looking at.
_________________
"If I believe I have a ghost, I will." Is this true? That's quite a controversy.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    in the shell Forum Index -> The Technology All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group