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that's almost as bad as the chick they chose to play lois lane in superman returns....Epiphany wrote:I've said it before. My biggist fear is
"Starring Nicole Kidman or Julia Roberts as the Major"
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I agree, this is kind of a logical step forward from standard animation. A lot of the non-human commonly used characters in GiTS:SAC are already modeled in 3D then cell shaded down to the animation level, so they have the beginnings of the expertise already. The hardest part of CGI animation is how real it needs to be. Square Enix are masters of making their CGI animations look really real. On the flip side the 2004 Appleseed movie looked awesome and was beautifully composed, but looked more like cell animation. As long as they avoid shiny humans I can probably cope with it however it looksEpiphany wrote:If they're gonna make another GITS movie thats not done in the already proven format. I hope they do it more like "Final Fantasy Advent Children". The CGI format seems to work great in the opening sequels of "Stand Alone Complex and in Innocence". At least that way the Major would look like the Major, Ect. Ect. Plus CGI has come a long way since those were made
I agree, shiny people look plastic. GITS wouldn't likely get a "Lord Of The Rings" type budget. Then again once new software is in place the cost goes down rapidly. So maybe by now it would be affordable to lower budget films.Saito wrote:I agree, this is kind of a logical step forward from standard animation. A lot of the non-human commonly used characters in GiTS:SAC are already modeled in 3D then cell shaded down to the animation level, so they have the beginnings of the expertise already. The hardest part of CGI animation is how real it needs to be. Square Enix are masters of making their CGI animations look really real. On the flip side the 2004 Appleseed movie looked awesome and was beautifully composed, but looked more like cell animation. As long as they avoid shiny humans I can probably cope with it however it looksEpiphany wrote:If they're gonna make another GITS movie thats not done in the already proven format. I hope they do it more like "Final Fantasy Advent Children". The CGI format seems to work great in the opening sequels of "Stand Alone Complex and in Innocence". At least that way the Major would look like the Major, Ect. Ect. Plus CGI has come a long way since those were made
You don't need a 'Lord of the Rings' size budget to do good CGI, you just need a small group of talented and dedicated modelers, animators, choreographers, and artists under a visionary director with a big slab of time. You do need an investment of hardware and software to do it too, but it's a once-in-5-years thing at most and the total cost of equipping a team like that wouldn't have paid for the sandwiches on one episode of LoTREpiphany wrote: I agree, shiny people look plastic. GITS wouldn't likely get a "Lord Of The Rings" type budget. Then again once new software is in place the cost goes down rapidly. So maybe by now it would be affordable to lower budget films.
I disagree about LotR. The reason it was a faithful adaptation was not so much because of the fans, but because the people who were making it decided to have a vested interest in making it authentic (and even then it they did add a few things and change a few parts).holdenmcclure wrote:Unfortunately, I am quite sure that this will not be a successful adaptation. Only a bastard-child of the previous adaptations. In order to make a convincing live-action adaptation from any sci-fi or fantasy fiction animated film or book, you have to have a very large budget as opposed to other movies. LoTR was successful because the books were very successful, and therefore had an installed viewer base from the git-go, therefore it was snatched up from a very wealthy production studio and given a large budget. Unfortunately GiTS was mainly marketed towards Japanese viewers, and even taking that into account, GiTS viewer base pales in comparison to the reader base LoTR has/had. As well as the fact that GiTS would probably require an even larger budget to appease the animation standards that the anime adaptations have created within the GiTS viewers. I definately wouldn't consider getting excited over this. I have a feeling this movie will be about as appealing to us as "The Hobbit" movie was to Tolkein readers. What I want to know is about A FUCKING THIRD SEASON OF SAC DAMNIT!
That is true, I mentioned the amount of funding as a large element in LoTR's success, not its sole purpose. You don't honestly think that LoTR would have been even half as good with a standard movie budget do you? It would arguably be unfilmable. Regardless of this tangent, I believe GiTS would also require a strong budget in order to work, as well as the fact that the political/philosophical elements to the plot would be truncated in order to be more mainstream Hollywood friendly.Jeni Nielsen wrote:I disagree about LotR. The reason it was a faithful adaptation was not so much because of the fans, but because the people who were making it decided to have a vested interest in making it authentic (and even then it they did add a few things and change a few parts).holdenmcclure wrote:Unfortunately, I am quite sure that this will not be a successful adaptation. Only a bastard-child of the previous adaptations. In order to make a convincing live-action adaptation from any sci-fi or fantasy fiction animated film or book, you have to have a very large budget as opposed to other movies. LoTR was successful because the books were very successful, and therefore had an installed viewer base from the git-go, therefore it was snatched up from a very wealthy production studio and given a large budget. Unfortunately GiTS was mainly marketed towards Japanese viewers, and even taking that into account, GiTS viewer base pales in comparison to the reader base LoTR has/had. As well as the fact that GiTS would probably require an even larger budget to appease the animation standards that the anime adaptations have created within the GiTS viewers. I definately wouldn't consider getting excited over this. I have a feeling this movie will be about as appealing to us as "The Hobbit" movie was to Tolkein readers. What I want to know is about A FUCKING THIRD SEASON OF SAC DAMNIT!
I do agree that the live action GitS movie might be an entirely different story all together.
Hollywood friendly means "$$$$$$"holdenmcclure wrote:That is true, I mentioned the amount of funding as a large element in LoTR's success, not its sole purpose. You don't honestly think that LoTR would have been even half as good with a standard movie budget do you? It would arguably be unfilmable. Regardless of this tangent, I believe GiTS would also require a strong budget in order to work, as well as the fact that the political/philosophical elements to the plot would be truncated in order to be more mainstream Hollywood friendly.Jeni Nielsen wrote:I disagree about LotR. The reason it was a faithful adaptation was not so much because of the fans, but because the people who were making it decided to have a vested interest in making it authentic (and even then it they did add a few things and change a few parts).holdenmcclure wrote:Unfortunately, I am quite sure that this will not be a successful adaptation. Only a bastard-child of the previous adaptations. In order to make a convincing live-action adaptation from any sci-fi or fantasy fiction animated film or book, you have to have a very large budget as opposed to other movies. LoTR was successful because the books were very successful, and therefore had an installed viewer base from the git-go, therefore it was snatched up from a very wealthy production studio and given a large budget. Unfortunately GiTS was mainly marketed towards Japanese viewers, and even taking that into account, GiTS viewer base pales in comparison to the reader base LoTR has/had. As well as the fact that GiTS would probably require an even larger budget to appease the animation standards that the anime adaptations have created within the GiTS viewers. I definately wouldn't consider getting excited over this. I have a feeling this movie will be about as appealing to us as "The Hobbit" movie was to Tolkein readers. What I want to know is about A FUCKING THIRD SEASON OF SAC DAMNIT!
I do agree that the live action GitS movie might be an entirely different story all together.
But it would look a lot like the MMI (Man-Machine Interface) manga if they went in for the shiny plastic people look. Could create a surrealist 'artificial people' atmosphere, capitalising on the alreasy surreal artificial nature of CGI?I agree, shiny people look plastic.
Although the original was a manga...GitS needs to stay Anime or CG. Anything else will be a joke and insult to the spirit of the originals
). And to a small extent I'm still a little sore about the Americanisation of Lara Croft (READ: making her more of a sympathetic, acceptible hero despite the fact that that was *not* the original game character's story before the new generation of Tomb Raider games).
